tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post1429352986492307878..comments2022-04-10T03:02:45.373-07:00Comments on Rogers' VIP AP Class: Allusions and Cultural ReferencesHappyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03244879271481922569noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-63070143449960817172012-09-24T00:44:35.606-07:002012-09-24T00:44:35.606-07:00Jesus Alcantar is right, more information as to th...Jesus Alcantar is right, more information as to the Breedlove's economic status makes it clear to us as readers what and where the Breedlover's are in life.<br /><br />Also are you married Jesus? This would help us settle an argument further up blog.<br /><br />Thanks.Christian Shaughnessynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-49823146586411329652012-09-24T00:42:02.305-07:002012-09-24T00:42:02.305-07:00Well I'd be happy to point your curiosities to...Well I'd be happy to point your curiosities to the Gnostic Gospels of Thomas, Phillip, and the aptly named fragment (albeit colloquially named so far) Gospel of Jesus's Wife. Also ask yourself why a traveling 30 something year old Rabbi in a patriarchal society wouldn't be married. Was Jesus of Nazareth a man or not? And does a man not have needs?Christian Shaughnessynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-18436768892239079182012-09-20T00:00:26.537-07:002012-09-20T00:00:26.537-07:00In the novel "The Bluest Eye" by Toni Mo...In the novel "The Bluest Eye" by Toni Morrison, the author uses allusion to explicate Pecola's desire for love. The author suggest that "three pennies had bought her nine lovely orgasms with Mary Jane" gives Pecola the bliss she dreadfully desired. Because Pecola is unable to gain real affection, she imagines the inanimate objects, such as candy, to represent a person. Jenny Nguyennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-20186385317894896272012-09-19T23:36:04.057-07:002012-09-19T23:36:04.057-07:00Probably, Chris. Pecola doesn't know what affe...Probably, Chris. Pecola doesn't know what affection is from her own mother. So therefore, no matter how promiscuous these prostitutes are, she found shelter to put her heart in, even if it were only for a short while because these prostitutes actually talked to her, unlike the rest of the world. It overshadowed the fact that they are prostitutes and if you think about it, humans can't Diana Yangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-9052311803971442822012-09-19T23:27:34.958-07:002012-09-19T23:27:34.958-07:00Do you mean to say that Claudia is refusing to con...Do you mean to say that Claudia is refusing to conformto admiring the "standard 'American woman'" favored by society? Diana Yangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-44342187494588943802012-09-19T23:23:55.335-07:002012-09-19T23:23:55.335-07:00Gaby, i would say yes, they are a closer represent...Gaby, i would say yes, they are a closer representation to Shirley Temple but its only Claudia who despises her.<br />Christian, so if Maureen was fully white or fully black, would it have an affect on how the girls approach Maureen?Mayra Vazqueznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-77497853737866782742012-09-19T23:22:55.677-07:002012-09-19T23:22:55.677-07:00Yes, but how does the allusion to Shirley Temple s...Yes, but how does the allusion to Shirley Temple show readers about the ways of society? You forgot to mention that.Diana Yangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-72092030596229758422012-09-19T23:20:55.448-07:002012-09-19T23:20:55.448-07:00The author makes use of many different allusions i...The author makes use of many different allusions in “The Bluest Eye,” but not without intentions. Toni Morrison’s specific allusion to Shirley Temple and Jane Whithers highlights society’s conformity of following the archetype of a blond and/or blue-eyed person versus the archetype of a brunette and/or brown-eyed person. Shirley Temple, the budding child star during the 1930’s, is also known as Diana Yangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-11338289518930781022012-09-19T23:13:16.006-07:002012-09-19T23:13:16.006-07:00Gaby, i like how you said they take a liking to Pe...Gaby, i like how you said they take a liking to Pecola. If pecola wasnt the way she is, do you think they would have approved of her? Or do you think Pecola would have stuck around the prostitutes if she wasn't the child she is?Mayra Vazqueznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-49064765542256517362012-09-19T22:58:55.382-07:002012-09-19T22:58:55.382-07:00It's interesting that you've taken the gua...It's interesting that you've taken the guardian approach with gargoyles. It reminds me of the gargoyles in the Disney variation of the movie, "The Hunchback of Notre Dame". Combining your's and Chris' ideas, the relationship of Pecola & the Prostitutes and Quasimodo & the Gargoyles are very similar in that all of them are viewed in their respective society as Kietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-11443541900795128072012-09-19T22:55:35.759-07:002012-09-19T22:55:35.759-07:00In the novel , Morrison alludes to the three gargo...In the novel , Morrison alludes to the three gargoyles in reference to the three prostitutes. Gargoyles were used to ward off evil and protect buildings and such and they represent the three prostitutes, Miss Marie, China, and Poland. Gargoyles were hideous creatures and I believe Morrison used them to allude to the three prostitutes because this is how society views them, hideous in their Esperanza Elizarraraznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-13990774613995258852012-09-19T22:51:19.380-07:002012-09-19T22:51:19.380-07:00This is an interesting explanation. However, I fee...This is an interesting explanation. However, I feel as though you failed to follow the instructions on mentioning one of the allusions/references provided above. Nonetheless, your unorthodox answer could have been elaborated upon further like how does marijuana connect to Mary Jane - as the candy and as the icon.Kietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-47552693843567347062012-09-19T22:47:23.243-07:002012-09-19T22:47:23.243-07:00A huge and significant part of Pecola's nature...A huge and significant part of Pecola's nature is that she has a fixation and a longing of acquiring and viewing the world through, as mentioned by the narrative, "blue eyes". Her viewing of the world through blue eyes will in turn cause others to view her differently - in a positive light. In this time period, beautiful Caucasian females boasting blonde hair and blue eyes were Kietnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-78397644265727843702012-09-19T22:47:06.857-07:002012-09-19T22:47:06.857-07:00I do agree with what you said that Morrison uses t...I do agree with what you said that Morrison uses the three prostitutes as protectors for Pecola. But yeah , I too agree with Vanessa's statement about her using the allusion to refer to their profession.Esperanza Elizarraraznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-70001119555860660172012-09-19T22:45:32.605-07:002012-09-19T22:45:32.605-07:00I found it interesting how the prostitutes were co...I found it interesting how the prostitutes were compared to gargoyles. We know gargoyles are protectors but the are also ugly terrifying creatures so how is it that Pecola was comfortable enough to associate with them. Is it the fact that Pecola thinks so little of her self that anyone who accepts her is good?Chris reckardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-25477030120494483832012-09-19T22:42:16.859-07:002012-09-19T22:42:16.859-07:00I do agree with what you said about the allusion. ...I do agree with what you said about the allusion. I thought though when I read this scene that as she was eating the sandy , Pecola herself became the little white girl on the wrapper. By being her, all her troubles would go away and she would have that perfect life that she's desired. She would be that white little girl that others looked at with adoration. Her orgasms were in a sense a Esperanza Elizarraraznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-32212286144860062202012-09-19T22:41:47.517-07:002012-09-19T22:41:47.517-07:00In the story "The Bluest Eye" by Toni Mo...In the story "The Bluest Eye" by Toni Morrison, the author uses allusion to reference the relationships between Pecola and her mother, Mrs. Breedlove to the relationship of Ginger Rogers and her mother. Ginger Rogers was an American actress, dancer, and singer during the 20th century. She had a close relationship with her mother throughout her life unlike Pecola and her mother. To Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14457190405892218270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-40537095827174868632012-09-19T22:33:56.284-07:002012-09-19T22:33:56.284-07:00In the novel "The Bluest Eye" the author...In the novel "The Bluest Eye" the author, Toni Morrison, uses the allusion of Jane Withers to better describe the dissimilarity between Claudia and her two compatriots, Frieda and Pecola. Though Freida and Pecola love the generally well known and adored Shirley Temple, Claudia favors the still famous, however less popular Jane Withers. This is significant because unlike the blonde, Nathan Medina-Silvanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-17489071479109354632012-09-19T22:31:23.017-07:002012-09-19T22:31:23.017-07:00In a way yes Maureen was not considered a person o...In a way yes Maureen was not considered a person of the same race as Claudia Frieda or Pecola due to the color of her skin. However the girls do not like her because of the treatment she is given and they are not they still conversate with her due to her not being fully white.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13262879526657417646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-1421329411773411972012-09-19T22:28:19.360-07:002012-09-19T22:28:19.360-07:00I felt that the allusion of Dick and Jane foils Pe...I felt that the allusion of Dick and Jane foils Pecola's life and foreshadows each paragraph. For example in what we might consider chapter 3 the chapter is titled "HEREISTHEFAMILYMOTHERFATHERDICKANDJANETHEYLIVEINTHEGREENANDWHITEHOUSETHEYAREVERYH" one notices that this title is from the prologue and that it is cut off before it says that they are happy. This foreshadows that Pecola&Chris reckardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-73710701607896869112012-09-19T22:21:24.852-07:002012-09-19T22:21:24.852-07:00The allusion to Shirley Temple stands out out to m...The allusion to Shirley Temple stands out out to me as a reader the most. It not only shows Claudia's intellect but also Pecola's yearning to be accepted in society and be beautiful. Claudia's maturity and intelligence is demonstrated throughout the seen with herquestioning why the blue-eyed red headed girl is seen as beautiful and the dark hair brown-eyed girl isn't by society. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13262879526657417646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-91161458142621318472012-09-19T22:19:41.729-07:002012-09-19T22:19:41.729-07:00Allusion plays a significant role in "The Blu...Allusion plays a significant role in "The Bluest Eye", by Toni Morrison. For instance, the author refers to the three whores that befriend Pecola as "Three merry gargoyles. Three merry harridans" (Morrison). Gargoyles are known as grotesque creatures that ward off evil and serve as rain-gutters, while harridans are scolding old women. By using these examples, Morrison Monica Hartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-76008989702218201812012-09-19T22:18:14.241-07:002012-09-19T22:18:14.241-07:00Now I don't fully understand your argument tha...Now I don't fully understand your argument that Pecola is a caught in a "conflict of choosing between society", but I do think it's interesting that you related Pecola's Mary Janes to her mother/family's religion. Candy is widely viewed as a pure object. So is Christianity.<br />However, in Pecola's life, both are extremely corrupted and explicit. While Pecola's Jazzie Collinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-45712242583042891982012-09-19T22:05:43.183-07:002012-09-19T22:05:43.183-07:00Sabrina, I agree with you about Claudia's feel...Sabrina, I agree with you about Claudia's feelings about Shirley Temple have nothing to do with actual beauty. Her animosity towards Shirley Temple does not stem from the jealously of wanting to be loved and adored by millions of people, but from just the 'idea' of the blond-haired, blue-eyed 'white' child being the one who is always adored.Jazzie Collinsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6044568781581013280.post-44410677390749744962012-09-19T21:51:28.388-07:002012-09-19T21:51:28.388-07:00In the novel "The Bluest Eye", Toni Morr...In the novel "The Bluest Eye", Toni Morrison alludes to both Jane Withers and Hedy Lamarr to sublty reveal Claudia's deep, underlying contempt for her society's idealist image of the 'perfect' little girl and furthermore, her rejection of her own society's beauty standards. Rather than side with Pecola and Freida and chime in on Shirley Temple's cuteness, and Jazzie Collinsnoreply@blogger.com